Haunt Space, revisted, part deux

I feel like I'm stuck in a bad (is there a such thing as a good one?) episode of Days Of Our Lives.

Things were starting to get back to semi-normal. Then I get a little note from a friend saying I should check out the forum over at HauntSpace. Of course, I'm curious because I'm apparently one of the topics there, so I checked it out.

Oh good grief, here we go again. Thanks Pete. For someone who wants to drop it, you sure do post a lot on the forum about it.

Rather than go into a long diatribe, I'll just post the forum post in its entirety and respond to each section in another color. I think yellow will be Pete and I will be blue (I feel blue, so it fits.)

Back from my vacation early.

I really didn't want to do this.

I appreciate those that contribute and make HauntSpace what it is. If you're a member that I never flagged or had a problem witth, this doesn't concern you.

***Yes, and those are the ones who keep butting in and keeping it going.

For the others, this is the deal, like it or not. The drama is apparently "still ongoing" tonight it's going to end on here for good.


***As long as you keep posting it on the forum, it won't end. That's how this whole mess started.

Biting my tongue, trying to, but with the things I'm reading and hearing, it's time to explain my position.

Before we get started, if someone on here is getting angry with this post, or feel that I don't run it right, or feel that I'm the one with the problem here, the door is a click away, because I'm sick of it. I will re-gain control of HauntSpace, even if I have to do it from the very beginning.

Most members that lost their accounts, or deleted their accounts are good people. I'm not trying to take that away from them. I have no hard feelings towards any of them, but my frustration is growing once again.

***Likewise.

No matter what web-site you belong to you have the option to weigh things and make decisions. You can make friends or lose friends. You can chose to fight wars that are impossible to win, engage in drama or contribute the types of qualities that a serious webmaster, or (other) member expects. If someone jumps off a bridge, will you follow them just because you're a friend? Get some common sense. I'm doing what I set out to do and ANYONE can tell you that I like member counts like anyone else. My decisions might be harmful, as some good Haunters left the site, but a couple of them got too wrapped up in things. If people weren't running their mouths, Iwouldn't have to post this.

***Sorry Pete, but if you would address people's concerns in private, you wouldn't have to deal with this. If you answered people's emails, you wouldn't have to deal with this.

We're havin g a problem currently with some folks that weren't happy with my decisions, trying to lure others to another web-site. That's ok, I don't care if you belong to other sites, I do too. But don't be a big baby and try to justify yourself with trying to pull the members from HauntSpace. That shows that you don't care about anyone but yourself. Hence, I'm happy that I did what I did, once again.

Seriously, people are asking me if I am trying to lure people away. I have asked people NOT to leave. I'm getting tired of defending myself over this, and you just keep bringing it back up over and over again, into the public eye.

This all started a while back when a person surrounded by drama and inconsideration wound up leaving the building. That person can't seem to get along with others on ANY web-site. A bunch of the members, 99.0% male subjects had a real problem with me over it. It didn't matter to them that I gave the moron more than one chance, and such moron got some additional licks in after I warned THAT person.

You really should have clarified WHO this person was when you posted that. A LOT of people are assuming that it is ME you're calling a moron. This is why you have the big issues here. You go on and post stuff like this, not naming names, then people make assumptions and the shit hits the fan. It's best to either post a name outright or don't post it at all. For the record, the moron is QueenMorgueAna, not me. (Although I have been known to be a moron at times.) And she and I have NOTHING in common other than both being females and both being kicked off HauntSpace. I don't even really know her other than the fact that she got picked on for buying her props instead of making them. And what the hell does SHE have to do with THIS situation??

Then you have some additional problems, but most of it didn't surface.

The huge problem we had here is that a couple of good members posted some blog material that caused a minor disruption.

A couple of those folks took my actions personaly and decided to come on here and BASH me and my decisions.. That's a no-no on ANYONE'S web-site. The bottom line is that the admin of the site has the right to do what he or she feels is in the better interest of the situation.

***Yes, I took it personally since you posted it to the forum instead of a simple PM. I did not, however, "bash" you. GoE bashed you. I only expressed my surprise at someone getting offended and my opinion that it should have been handled privately. Again, I think I'm justified in that opinion. Just because he and I are friends does not mean we are of the same mind. We are actually quite opposite on most things. Did the people who bashed me and GoE get into trouble too? Equality, does that even come into play? Nope. Favoritism... again.

At no time did I ask for someone else's opinion. I exclaim that.

***When you post something to a forum and don't set it to NO REPLIES, you are inviting opinions, whether they are in agreement or disagreement. You KNOW this. You don't have a problem with people kissing your ass, but if someone disagrees with you (as is our right), you get all high and mighty. Any time you open up a forum with different people, there will be disagreements. Live with it or shut it down.

Instead of complying, a couple of folks wanted to make a bid deal out of it.

We also have a few members here that are completely in my corner and defend me to no end. Kudos to you folks. After all, you guys realize what I do here, the amount of time I spend on here, and how much money I dump into spreading the cheer.

***Look down and behind you. Those would be the ones who are attached to your ass, yet going around causing most of the problems. Do as I say, but not as I do. Why can certain people insult people but the rest of us can't voice our opinion? When did THEY become "better" than the rest of us? Oh wait, THEY suck up to you. Never mind.

But in my eyes, we always have a pack fo people that come up with their own ideas on here. They think they deserve special rights and special privilages.

***Um... I never wanted special privileges, unless you count wanting any problems concerning me done PRIVATELY. I think ALL members should be afforded that little right. Again, once you put it out there, you invite drama.

During this, I ask that no one messages me, but of course they do, they still moan, complain and tell on their friends. I have to add that most of the messages I got in the past week were very kind and very supportive.

***Again, SOME people don't read the forum. Some don't read your blogs. If you want people to comply with your wishes, you need to find a better way to make them known. I was banned before I ever got a chance to fix anything. So was wandererrob. Like I mentioned to you before, you really should institute some sort of agreeable time period for this stuff. Not everyone sits on the computer all day, so not everyone knows what is going on at all times.

I'm always the one that likes to bend, give second chances and feel bad about certain things. No more.

Now recently, I dealt with a good guy that didn't adhere to my request to remove stuff that could cause distention from his page.

*** Wait, what does abdominal bloating have to do with this?

We had two other people who lacked maturity. They got mad at me, one of which deleted content from a page and an icon. The other one deleted content. During all of this, even after I tried to be nice, kept on going. I ask you, if you get angry over something stupid and fold, do you honestly care about your friend on here, or care about the site? NO! Why should I keep you here then, you're wasting my server space. A couple of folks are just too used to getting what they want in life.

***Thanks, now I lack maturity. I was wondering what my problem was. I find it odd that someone would say that, yet keep posting and posting and deleting and deleting, just like the teenagers with mood swings that I watch on my son's myspace page. At least when I get mad, I stick with how I feel. Would you rather I delete my content or keep arguing on the forum? Given the two, I'd take the missing content. I could have easily let myself go and show a rage-filled temper. I didn't. It's also funny to me, because I seem to remember you constantly going off publicly on a certain person, acting extremely opinionated, using the same foul language he used, and making yourself look like a complete ass in the process. Oh wait, these people here don't know about that. Pete, I still love ya to death, but can the holier than thou approach.

If a couple of folks didn't create the problem, I wouldn't have to play damage control. If things don't go right in your life, too friggen bad. If someone asks you to do something too friggen bad, just do it.

***Again, maybe a time grace period would have solved this problem. You posted about fixing the pages that afternoon, while I was gone and never checked in. I didn't know anything until the next morning. Same thing goes with wandererrob.

Then I have a member who's calling me names to others, although such person says nice things to my face. Another member is preparing to leave. Someone might say, "boohoo, they're calling you names, a big man can handle it". To them I say, "I don't have to". I'm running a serious web-site, I want the folks on here to be serious.

I helped them out the door. I don't have time for it.

The nice thing is that drama kings and queens always run to each other, and most of them always drop the dime on their friends. That always helps me make my decisions.

I especially don't like it when folks gang up on each other. I won't run this site the way "you" want me to run it individually, I will run it with the majority in mind.

***Funny how the "majority" seems to be a small handful of people. The rest of them just keep their mouths shut or fingers still and don't bother. I've seen that "majority" jump on the bandwagon and attack other people for no reason. Even funnier how they don't get kicked off.

We're at a crossroads here.

Like I said before, it's a case of "if I don't like something I'll take my ball and go elsewhere". If a few people would have followed the rules, nothing would have happened. If a few people would have kept out of other people's business, it would have been easier for all of us.

***Amen! If someone like those two cronies you have under you would keep their traps shut, there'd be more members and less drama. Of course, I'm sure you'd never tell THEM that.

The thing I find to be amusing is that most of the people who cause problems, are from the same group.

Exactly WHAT group are you referring to? If you want to post something accusatory like that, you should really name the group. Is it the GoE group? Because they let it go on Friday when they left for Salem. Oddly enough, for Steve to do that surprised me, but it's a nice surprise. The occasional joke is made, but for most intents and purposes, they don't give a rat's ass about HauntSpace anymore. Like I said before, there were only 3 of us, and I sure as hell haven't been going around causing problems. I only respond to messages sent TO me. Even then I try not to be snotty, but I do share my opinion. I also don't go around trying to get people to leave. Y'all doing a fine job of that yourself.

I want Halloween, Haunted House stuff on here, I don't want a HauntSpace episode of Big Brother.


We do have an amazing site here and those that can't play in the sandbox without throwing sand can go elsewhere.

DO NOT....................harass a member of this site. I will find out about it and you'll be a deleted member yourself. If you can't haunt here and you find the type of place you feel you belong in, then all the power to you.


Uh... didn't you already find out about a member harassing another member? Didn't Grimdaddy harass Ravenlunatic in her blog? Didn't he call people names and make nasty comments? Did you do anything about it? Why wasn't HE kicked off? He BLATANTLY disregarded your rules. Favoritism. Foul!!

Cocky as it may sound, I don't have time to play games, and I'll be on the trigger YOU BET YOUR BOTTOM DOLLAR. Halloween is coming and I've heard enough.

Members are here to be Haunters. I am too.

It's a privilage to be on HauntSpace. It's a serious site with a lot of heart. From now on, I will continue to find out who's causing the problems and weed them out, little by little.

***Again, look around you, they're standing right behind you with their lips firmly planted on your rear.

For everyone that leaves, we'll fill the slot with someone who knows how to treat others, and knows how to treat HauntSpace with a little bit of respect.

Get back to Haunting.................................The season approaches.

I'll say it one more time, if some folks kept their big mouths shut and had an ounce of respect for me, none of this would have happened. I'll be running HS a little differently from now on.

Back from vacation early, I wish the good guys and ghouls a wonderful Halloween 2008. To the other people, you can kiss my doopa.

I'm holding back believe me.

Do you know that we have members that backed out of my Bucky giveaway because they didn't want to get hosed for being a friend of mine and winning?

There's more, it's very sad. It shows me how friggen IGNORANT people can be. I haven't been this disgusted in years. Again, this is why I started HauntSpace. I'll weed out the trouble makers, I don't care how skilled they are. Tis the problem with the industry in general. Some folks think that they can score by building the bigger prop.

That's not how I work, I like folks that are decent, follow rules and care for one another.

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And the very first reply to it from starpugsnort, who apparently CANNOT follow the rules that Pete JUST mentioned:

Pete, I'm sorry but I'm gonna use some strong words here and I apologize to anyone who might be offended...


For the people who are causing the problem, SHUT THE HELL UP!! I am SO sick of seeing that you people can't grow up and let stuff go!! For the love of all that's Halloween, STOP WASTING EVERYONE'S TIME AND ENERGY!! This is fricken stupid!! Do you think Pete has nothing better to do than listen to you people bitch about stuff?? You ought to feel HONORED for everything he does for us and this site.

Pete, run the site the way YOU see fit, throw these idiots out and delete the nasty messages. You do a great job and if these as@#oles don't like it, they can kiss all of our doopas!!!

I noticed that person got away with posting that. He/she/it is another of those that pipe up every chance they get, attacking people and egging on the drama. That post is proof of that.

And in conclusion, I'd like to say that I still wish Pete the best for HauntSpace. As an admin myself, I know how frustrating it can be to deal with people who are passionate and opinionated. Fortunately for me, I am still a very small fish in a very small pond with my own site. My mod duties on other boards are limited as well, so I don't really have to put up with a whole lot of crap. I feel that there should always be a 3-strike rule, and I use it myself. The only difference is, I tend to keep problems more private and wouldn't think of posting stuff like this publicly to the masses. I've only made one exception to my public rule, and he's the same moron that Pete has had to deal with elsewhere - hauntmaster/ghostman/grimreaper/pickaname... but that is another story. And even then, I still gave him the 3 chances afforded to everyone before kicking him off.

Any further discussion on this matter can be handled here. I'll gladly respond to anyone with questions or issues with it. Just remember, anything posted here is public, so pick your words carefully because you cannot take them back once posted.

Have a lovely weekend.